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Buying a motorcycle – Part 2 – The Pink Dosya

On Saturday, after buying the compulsory government insurance (neither difficult nor expensive) we went to a trafik takipi – someone who sorts out your papers for the Trafik Polis.  This is, we believe, absolutely necessary.  It cost us 30 lira, and he prepared a neat file (this is a pink dosya – we think it needs to be pink because we didn’t see any that were any other colour) with all the documents in the right order.  We did this locally in Selçuk.  Near the  near the Trafik Polis in Izmir there are loads of offices which perform the same service.  Some of these look very smart and some are just a guy sitting on a stool on the street with a portable typewriter.  We were warned in the police office that not everyone who offers to help you with the process is trustworthy.  We think we were right to get our documents prepared in advance it took a lot of worry and stress out of the situation.   We had all the necessary documents but, if something had been missing, it would have been good  to sort this out before going to Izmir.  Also the Takipi was recommended by a friend.   Personal recommendations are really important here.

On Monday armed with said file we went to Izmir and took our queue ticket in the Trafik Tescil.  We waited around 20 minutes then we saw a very pleasant police officer who said there was a problem with our papers – the vize was out of date.  Well, we knew that Şadı had sorted that and that we had temporary registration on the system, so we pointed that out and all was well.  We were given a document and told to take it to where the plates are made up, and to then return in the afternoon with said plate and the receipt.  Hilary understood everything she was told except how to get to the place that prints the number plates (she is hopeless with directions).  The Polis was worried that we didn’t understand so he phoned a friend who turned up and explained everything in English.  We understood everything except how to get to the place that prints the number plates…

We headed off and, after some false starts, found the place that prints the number plates and handed in our paper.  It is nearby but not immediately obvious.  We were charged 17.5 lira and took our receipt.  We were told to come back at around 15:00 so we declared lunchtime and went to eat.  We loitered for a couple of hours after lunch, then came back, picked up our new plate and headed to room 13 where our papers were ready and waiting for us.  We now have a 35 (Izmir) MG plate, showing that we are foreign, and all the correct papers including those for the recent change of paint colour to white.  We caught the 15:30 train home.

Of course we then had to change the insurance policy because the number plate had changed, but this was simple enough although we were told we needed to go back to the insurance agent we where we bought the policy.  We even got a refund on the changed insurance, apparently insurance is cheaper with an Izmir plate than with an Istanbul one.

The final step is to explore kasko insurance (comprehensive) since the basic compulsory cover only covers third party.  This is likely to be expensive.

What you need for the pink dosya:
All documents pertaining to the sale and everything that was shown to the Noter

  • Vize
  • TUV
  • Sales Agreement (notarised)

Residence permit (ikamet tezkaresi)
Compulsory Insurance
(And, in our case, a lot of extra paperwork because the bike had been sprayed white – two forms and a receipt for the paintwork).

What you need for the polis:
The pink dosya.
Willingness and some ability to communicate in Turkish (or take someone with you who does).  We managed on our own, but Hilary does speak some basic Turkish and is able to understand when people speak slowly and clearly.

We think it’s really important to get the pink dosya made up by someone who knows what they’re doing.  The people we saw spoke no English but we had a phone number for the friend who recommended them in case we needed help  with translation (we didn’t).

Izmir is coming

Here, in Turkey there are a number of  large civil infrastructure developments being talked about, planned, or in development.  Many are around or linked to Istanbul.  The proposed Bosphorus by pass, a ship canal so that huge tankers and other ships no longer have to pass through central Istanbul.  The proposed third Bosphorus road bridge, needed as anyone who has encountered Istanbul traffic will assert, as long as the new roads are made to go with it otherwise other choke points will simply get worse.  The proposed Bosphorus rail tunnel, and a high speed rail line between Istanbul and Ankara.  The new motorway between Istanbul and Izmir along with a bridge crossing part of Marmara Sea.  Oil and natural gas pipelines.  How many of these happen remain to be seen, probably most.

More locally Izmir is coming to Selçuk.  A new university is coming here, a site has been identified and there are signs of the building work.  There has been talk of the Izmir metro being extended to Selçuk, this too is clearly happening.  The rail track is being upgraded from the current single track with passing points.  There are vast amounts of new sleepers in sidings along the route.  Much of the bridge work has already been completed or is in the process of being so.  Foundations for the track being dug for much of the route, and in places completed.

What these will do to Selçuk remains to be seen.  There will almost certainly be far more trains from here to Izmir and at the airport since it is on the route.  This will be vastly convenient.  There will be more students, so probably more bars in the town centre and a bit more activity in the evenings.  The Belediye (town council) has recently announced improvements to road and water infrastructure, new parks, and a new sports centre .  There is talk of the castle once again being illuminated at night and of public access to it happening later this year.

Beyond the civic projects, there is an immense amount of building work going on in town.  There are now three storey blocks of flats where once there were holes in the ground.     We’re unlikely to get true high rise round here as there are regulations around the height of buildings.  The regulations appear to be somewhat flexible but four stories seems to be a fairly absolute limit.  There is also a certain amount of extremely optimistic pricing of property on the market no doubt fueled by the many other developments.

It all seems pretty positive for the town, no global recession here.

How we got our Ikamet Tezkaresi in Izmir

These  residence permits are issued by each Province and there appear to be to be differences in the precise requirements(and system) from province to province.  If  you don’t live in Izmir province your mileage may vary.  Also, this describes where things were when we went – they could move the desks around!

We live in Izmir province so we went to Izmir to get our permits.  We were told to go to ‘the big building’ in Konak.  There are a number of big government buildings in Konak and the biggest challenge of the day was working out which one we needed.  The office is Yabancılar Şube Müdürlüğü which is on the second floor of the government complex off the main square in Konak – across the square from the main Belediye building.  You go in, past security, to an open courtyard.  The building you need is in front of you and slightly to your right.  It is all very busy and can be confusing.  Go up to the second floor.  Enter the Yabancilar Şube (to your right if you go up in the lift, to your left if you go up the stairs). Turn right as you go through the door and get issued with a queue number.  Go and sit outside the office and wait for your number to come up.  We waited less than 15 minutes.

We needed the following documents:

    • Passport
    • Photocopy of passport including visa page (showing when and where we entered Turkey)
    • 5 photographs (passport type)
    • Letters from the NHS Pensions office translated into Turkish and notarised.  Photocopy of these letters.  Original letters.
    • The two forms below (two copies of each) filled in (you can fill them in whilst you’re in the office but having them pre-filled saves time) – we couldn’t print them from the web but someone gave a copy which we had photocopied:

İkamet Tezkeresi İşlemleri İçin Gerekli Bilgiler
İkamet Tezkeresi Formu
(Tek sayfaya arkalı önlü olarak çıkartılacaktır ! )
The two forms can be found here http://www.izmirpolis.gov.tr/index.php?s=64 Though one of these is a .rar file which I can’t open.

We also had statements from bank accounts in Turkey but these were not asked for after we offered the NHS pension documents.

At this point we paid for our books (149 lira each) and got invoices to take to the payment office.  We were sent away to photocopy our translated and notarised pension letters so they wouldn’t have to keep the originals (which were expensive due to having been translated and notarised).  This was about half an hour after having entered the building for the first time.  We found a photocopy shop but then the building closed for security to have lunch (we think) so we went for some çay whilst waiting to be let back in.

We went to a window at the back where someone stamped our forms.  I’m not sure that we needed to do that but it didn’t seem to do any harm. He told us where to go and pay – we got in the queue behind someone who was arguing with the people in the office but it still didn’t take very long to have our charges converted into lira, pay and get a stamped receipt.  The entire cost was just over 1000 lira – that’s for two people for three years (first time permit – ilk ikamet – so that includes the books).  They convert from dollars at the daily rate so your mileage might vary!

Then back up to the office on the 2nd floor where we joined a bit of a crush to see the policeman who had been dealing with us previously.  This man was seriously multitasking.  He took our papers and applied more stamps.  He gave us small slips of paper, kept our passports and told us to come back in about 20 days to collect our passports and permits.  It’s normally two weeks but he added on some days to allow for Bayram.

We went back on the designated day, picked up a number, waited about five minutes, signed a slip of paper and got our passports back, complete with residence permits.

I just looked online for our yabanci kimlik numbers and they are not there yet but I understand it can take a while for them to appear.

Train from Selçuk to Izmir

We took the train from Selçuk to Izmir.  The train was modern, air conditioned and comfortable and a ticket costs 5.5 Lira each way.  The journey time is on average around 90 minutes so although significantly cheaper than the bus takes a little longer.  The advantage of the train is that the bus terminates at Izmir Otogar which is some distance from the city centre and requires getting another bus to the city centre, whilst the train terminates at Basmane which is right in the heart of Izmir.  The other potential benefit of the train is that about 15 minutes from Basmane it stops at Adnan Menderes Airport.

From Selçuk Basmane – Izmir
Soke 06.49 08.22
Nazilli 07.27 08.45
Denizli 08.54 10.21
Denizli 11.35 12.45
Nazilli 15.10 16.33
Denizli 19.18 20.33
Basmane – izmir Selçuk Onward to
08.09 09.27 Denizli
10.22 11.36 Nazilli
14.20 15.42 Denizli
15.30 16.57 Denizli
17.35 18.53 Nazilli
19.10 20.39 Soke

It is not the prettiest train journey, but for accessing central Izmir it ticks all the right boxes.